After migration I'm sure there'll be an easy to find link on the site.
2012/3/30 Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo <elhoir at gmail.com>:
> About point 4, "New website status":
>>> "He stated that every user needs to change his password after the migration"
> where do i have to do so? what URL?
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Colin Finck <colin at reactos.org> wrote:
>>>> March 2012 Meeting Minutes
>>>> 2012-03-29
>> 19:00 UTC
>> Fezile, #meeting
>>>> Proceedings
>> ===========
>> * Meeting started at 19:00 UTC by Aleksey Bragin.
>>>> * Point 1: The state of Trunk
>> -----------------------------
>> * Cameron Gutman gave some examples how badly Trunk has regressed since
>> 0.3.14:
>> - Frequent bugchecks and assertions in the console
>> - Broken Unicode in the console
>> - Several key apps such as Firefox, Ping, Dwnl and Notepad being
>> broken or rarely working
>>>> He opened a discussion about improving the quality of Trunk.
>>>> * Timo Kreuzer favorized a stricter revert-on-regressions policy. By
>> employing the Patchbot buildslave, "evil" changes should be detected in
>> advance before committing them. According to Giannis Adamopoulos, the
>> Patchbot currently needs 20 minutes in total for building and testing a
>> patch.
>> * Colin Finck asked whether the current regressions were visible in the
>> automated regression tests. Aleksey Bragin denied this for most of them as
>> these were usability problems not detected by our regression tests.
>> * Various people suggested frameworks such as AutoIt and AutoHotKey to
>> automate application testing as well.
>> * To also automate real hardware testing, Jan Blomqvist Kinander has set
>> up another server. He reported that he could successfully perform a remote
>> ReactOS installation on it and just needs some scripts to automate the
>> procedures now.
>> * Aleksey Bragin illustrated his plan to move more towards loosely managed
>> development. In particular, he wants to introduce Atlassian tools such as
>> FishEye and JIRA to plan activity and actually do stuff.
>> * Cameron Gutman wanted a firm decision about dealing with regressions
>> first. Aleksey Bragin responded that the current rules still apply: A commit
>> shall be reverted after one day if it breaks booting or installation. Other
>> regressions shall be reported in Bugzilla using the REGRESSION prefix.
>> * Olaf Siejka criticized the way bugs are currently handled. The list at
>> http://www.reactos.org/wiki/Bug_Filters#Patch_review_list is getting bigger
>> and bigger while developers don't take responsibility for it. He added that
>> a decision was taken to release early last month, although no progress
>> towards implementing it was visible.
>> * Alex Ionescu joined the meeting later and reopened the discussion about
>> using Atlassian tools. In his opinion, JIRA and FishEye can support our
>> development along with Bamboo as a build and continuous integration system.
>> Later on, these systems could be set up to only accept a commit if it can be
>> successfully built by Bamboo.
>> - Olaf Siejka wants to set up a Bamboo test system to evaluate the
>> tool.
>> - Alex Ionescu will send out an E-Mail as soon as our setup is ready
>> for testing.
>>>> * Point 2: Plan for the next month
>> ----------------------------------
>> * The previous discussion about improving development using new tools
>> continued here. While Aleksey Bragin outlined that he wants to finish the
>> setup in April, Alex Ionescu gave more examples about what needs to be
>> changed when moving to JIRA:
>> - A dynamic component maintainer list should be added to establish
>> a clear chain of responsibility for all parts of ReactOS.
>> - User privileges should be changed to let only component maintainers
>> classify their bugs.
>> * Furthermore, the list at
>> http://www.reactos.org/wiki/Bug_Filters#Patch_review_list has been discussed
>> again. Alex Ionescu and Timo Kreuzer agreed that such general lists are
>> pointless and the following approach was suggested instead:
>> - Developers owning bugs and being mailed about them
>> - Release not being made until all important bugs are fixed
>> - Someone to prioritize which bugs are blocking a release
>> * Alex Ionescu outlined more ideas about improving the release process. He
>> suggested to create a roadmap for each release and picking several specific
>> bugs as goals for this release. Only fixes for these bugs should go into a
>> release, new features could be prepared in branches.
>> * The branches idea was picked up by Amine Khaldi who questioned that SVN
>> was able to properly handle more branches for new features, release
>> preparation, etc. due to its limited branching capabilities.
>> * Alex Ionescu did not agree with this, because people can merge just
>> subdirectories of a branch into Trunk or even bundle all changes in .patch
>> files and simply apply them.
>> * Timo Kreuzer called for a feature freeze in Trunk before the discussion
>> on point 2 ended, but Aleksey Bragin stated that this would prevent further
>> work on fixing Mm.
>> * Aleksey Bragin finally repeated that he is going to finish the setup of
>> the new tools in April and wants to get everybody used to them. The idea of
>> having modules owners shall get more developer responsibility towards issues
>> and patches.
>>>> * Point 3: Next release discussion
>> ----------------------------------
>> * Aleksey Bragin postponed this discussion to the next meeting as most of
>> the topics have already been covered in the discussion about Trunk. No
>> objections were raised.
>>>> * Point 4: New website status
>> -----------------------------
>> * Maciej Bialas reported that he is at the point of applying small fixes
>> now as well as importing the user database into Drupal. He stated that every
>> user needs to change his password after the migration because of different
>> hashing algorithms used in Drupal and RosCMS.
>> * Pierre Schweitzer noted that we should prevent another mass mailing of
>> all registered users due to the problems caused by the last one.
>> * Ziliang Guo proposed to just create a sticky forum post and write a mail
>> to a ReactOS mailing list about the password changes. There were no
>> objections.
>> * The participants agreed to continue discussions about website content on
>> the mailing lists.
>>>> * Point 5: Miscellaneous
>> ------------------------
>> * Giannis Adamopoulos picked up the new subsystem layout for Win32k, which
>> had already been discussed a year ago and was postponed. He outlined it at
>> http://pastie.org/3694259. Aleksey Bragin, James Tabor and Timo Kreuzer
>> agreed on it, so it will be committed within the next 4 days.
>> * Art Yerkes reported about his work on NewCC. In particular, he is
>> currently looking at a bug not existing in a non-NewCC build. He expects
>> other issues afterwards, but thinks that the entire work is progressing
>> well.
>>>> * Meeting closed at 21:55 UTC by Aleksey Bragin.
>> * Minutes written by Colin Finck.
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